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The omnipotence of GOD



One of the fundamental qualities of GOD is His omnipotence- which can be defined as infinite power, the ability to do anything. This would mean that there is nothing GOD cannot do, and it implies that GOD is above everything.

Certainly, we understand that GOD is the highest and greatest- He is above and beyond everything. So, when we talk of GOD not being able to do something, this superficially sounds like GOD is not all-powerful.

There are understood to be two things that GOD cannot "do". These are:

1. GOD cannot go against His own nature.
2. GOD cannot do anything that is logically impossible.

The issue with saying that there are things GOD cannot "do" is obvious- we have just said that GOD is omnipotent, so how can there be anything He can't do?

The first is easier to refute than the second, so let's address that first:

- GOD cannot go against His own nature

Effectively, what's being said here is: GOD cannot be, or do, anything that contradicts His own character- His traits of being perfect, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, eternal, unchanging etcetera.

When you think about it, it's quite obvious. Take one of his characteristics- omnipotence- if GOD could not be omnipotent at any point, then of course He's not omnipotent to begin with! All-powerful implies that GOD is eternally all-powerful, otherwise if GOD possessed the potential to lose power, then that in itself would be a weakness, meaning that He was not all-powerful to begin with, since He has the weakness of potentially losing power.

GOD cannot not be perfect- at any point. GOD is consistent with Himself at all times. This is because GOD is eternal and unchanging (Hebrews 13:8) and thus cannot at any time or place be anything but all-powerful, all-knowing and all-loving. In fact, by the very definition of these infinite qualities, they must be constant at all times- eternal- as eternity is an infinite quality. As mentioned before, if, at any moment, GOD could not be all-powerful, then by definition, He would not be all-powerful, since the ability to lose power would actually be a weakness- all-powerful means that He has no weaknesses.

In order for GOD to be perfect, all-powerful and infinite, He must be eternally unchanging and consistent. Otherwise He would not be perfect, and could not be trusted. Think about it anyway- if there were the possibility that GOD at some unpredictable moment could be unloving and evil, then how could He be trusted? As it happens, that is not GOD's nature, for GOD is perfect.

In order for a being to be perfect- it cannot change. Think about it- "change" means to "become different". When things change, they can change to become better or worse. But if an entity is already perfect, it is as high as it can be- so it cannot change to become better, by definition. You do not want a perfect entity to change, for then it would be imperfect- it cannot change for the better, only for the worse, and thus become imperfect.

So, then, a perfect entity cannot change, for if it had the potential to change, that would mean it would have the potential to become imperfect, and would therefore be imperfect (since if it has the potential to be imperfect, then it is not perfect), therefore a perfect entity must not be able to change. In this sense, "change" is an imperfection, a negative quality, not a good or perfect one.

This goes to show how GOD's qualities are all in perfect necessary harmony- eternal, unchanging, omnipotent, absolute. This makes GOD's omnipotence necessary and absolute- GOD cannot be anything but Himself.

Summed up: If GOD were able to go against His own nature, He would not be GOD

Moving onto the second thing GOD "can't do":

- GOD cannot do anything that is logically impossible.

The second criticism is a bit harder to refute, because many insist that any omnipotent being would be able to do things like make square circles or 2 + 2 = 5. In reality, however, these things are necessarily impossible. There is no possible reality that exists, or can exist, where the laws of logic are different from the ones here. Otherwise, if logic could be violated, then something would both exist and not exist at the same time, since the law of non-contradiction would no longer apply.

But, when we talk of logically impossible actions, what do we really mean? The term "impossible" is actually a misleading one- it implies that what it's referring to is an action, just one that cannot be done. However, it is understood by many Christian philosophers, like Richard Swinburne, that logically impossible "actions" are not even actions at all. In fact, the term "logically impossible" is really wrong, since, as I mentioned, "impossible" does refer to an undo-able action, thus implying it falls under the category of "action". This is misleading, simply because:

Logically impossible "things" do not actually exist

Anything that is "beyond logic" is non-existent. It is simple. It is like saying "beyond truth", "beyond reality" or "beyond existence". It makes no sense to talk of something existing beyond logic- that sentence is inconceivable, and illogical itself. Logic is not a "thing" that you can exist separately from, it refers to human reasoning and laws that we can utilize to determine truth. "Logic" isn't something that you can exist beyond, or that exists beyond anything. It is a word, referring to the abstract process of human reasoning. Perhaps, instead of saying "logically impossible", we should just say "non-existent" since saying "impossible" implies that it's some kind of action that just can't be done.

In theology and philosophy, it is understood that "illogic" is actually non-existent. There is no such thing, effectively, as "illogic". It's like "non-truth" (or lies) or "non-existence" are not actually true or real. That's why they're lies.
This would mean, since logically impossible "things" are not things, since they don't exist and are inconceivable, then logically impossible "actions" are not actions! They don't exist.

So saying that an omnipotent being cannot do anything logically impossible, is nothing more than saying an omnipotent being can't do something that is non-existent, because if it could, it's "power" would have to be non-existent. Or it's like saying a being that can only tell the truth, can't tell a lie. The "ability" to "do" something logically impossible is not an ability, and does not exist anyway.

If omnipotence included the ability to violate logic, then it would not be omnipotence, since this would also mean that it would contradict itself- and thus not being omnipotent at the same time. Omnipotence thus cannot violate logic, or it would not be omnipotence. It would escape it's own definition and cease to exist.

In summary: "Logically impossible" is a misleading term, as "impossible" denotes an "action" that cannot be "done", while in reality, logically impossible things are not actions and do not exist anyway.

(And the reason I keep putting "do" in quotations is simple- these things are not actually "doings" in the first place, they are non-actions, since they are non-existent).

So then, this may beg the question:

If GOD cannot do anything logically impossible, then does this not mean that GOD is limited by a higher authority (logic)?

You're making what I call a "conceptual mistake". You are personifying "logic" as if it's some kind of being. Words are used to produce concepts in the mind. Thing is, people use the word "logic" to refer to it as an abstract concept, almost as if it is a person, when it's not. I have already stated- logic refers to abstract human reasoning. It is not an entity or a person. "Logically impossible" is nothing but a fallacious term, since "impossible" gives us a concept of an action that can't be done, when logically impossible "actions" or "things" are neither actions nor things- it is non-existent.

It's a bit like asking: "Since GOD is above and beyond everything, and created the laws of everything, then He is above existence itself and made truth". Again, your question is fallacious- it doesn't make any sense and you are making a conceptual mistake. If GOD were beyond existence, and "invented" truth, it must mean He is beyond the truth- and hence non-existent and untrue Himself! In reality, however, your question makes a conceptual fallacy, because you are talking of "existence" and "truth" as if they are things like GOD or other entities, in which it is possible to exist above and beyond. We talk of GOD being outside of space and time and full comprehension, but not outside logic, truth, reality or existence.

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A brief overview of the omnipotence of GOD.

There is someone on deviantart, who I shall not name, who believes they have "absolute proof that GOD doesn't exist". They even link it in their signature. Unfortunately, they have blocked me, on the unbacked-up accusation that I am "stupid".

Aside from that insult and blocking, they claim that GOD is "beyond logic", and therefore non-existent. I hope to show how fallacious that is. There are understood to be two things GOD "can't do":

He can't go against His own nature.
He can't do anything logically impossible.

That is, to say, GOD can't not be perfect, eternal, etcetera, and He can't make 2 + 2 = 5, or cirlcles square. The obvious problem with saying this, is that many will claim that this proves how GOD is therefore not omnipotent. I hope to provide some insight as to how that is flawed. We must first understand what we mean by "omnipotence", and what an omnipotent being is really capable of. Simply put, if an omnipotent being could violate logic, then they wouldn't exist (illogic is non-existent), and thus omnipotence wouldn't exist. But this is not what omnipotence refers to. For more information, please read the article. I'm not sure if everything I said is 100% correct, but I tried.

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~Brisingr-Arget Apr 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think, based on some comments below, you may want to clarify this part.

Is God beyond logic? According to you, no. But he is definitely beyond human comprehension as we simply do not understand him in his entirety. As someone else said, he is beyond mortal logic. Logic's basis is knowledge and our own knowledge is so painfully pathetic in the grand scheme of things, especially when compared to God who is infinity. So, and please correct me is I make any errors in logic, while God is restrained by his own logic (I hope people won't get that wrong) we cannot possibly confine him to our own due to 1) our logic being faulty even in the best of times, and 2) the fact that we know so little about God. We can grasp at it, but not know him in his entirety. We are mortal, therefore finite, thus we cannot hope to understand all of infinity.

I hope I summed it up well and that it's what you wanted to say.
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*Rafael-Domination Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Again, your question is fallacious- it doesn't make any sense and you are making a conceptual mistake."
~ A lot of things about God don't make any sense. Stuffing thousands of people with a few loaves and fish is in itself logically impossible. Creating the entirety of Existence, down to the very laws of Space-Time, Logic and Fabric of Reality, out of Absolute Nothing is itself logically impossible. To say that God cannot be beyond Logic IS the fallacy, as confusing to the mind as that is. If He were truly God, He would be beyond even abstract concepts like Existence and Non-Existence, Truth and Imagination, etc, WHILE defying any form of Paradox that would supposedly cause omnipotence to negate itself; Reality and beyond would literally be His plaything. True omnipotence would be beyond conceptualizing, comprehension and self-contradiction. As such, not even the Omnipotence Paradox may bind God. This is where Logic must give way to Faith; this is where trying to fit an infinite God into our finite brains must give way to simply accepting that He is.
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~Nikolaj Oct 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I always find it funny how we try to define a being that is undefinable. How can our minds contain God? We can try to put Him in categories and boxes, but He is so much greater than that! If we only believe what we can grasp, then why do we need to have faith in Him?

Don't get me wrong. I like defining things and I like knowing things about my God. That's what relationships are about. It encourages me to have new examples of how great or majestic He is. How He can do anything! But I'd like to have the attitude of admiration like a child looks at his father, rather than the scientist who looks at something through a microscope or an astronomer studying something through a telescope and taking notes.

So, thank you for this piece of theology, philosophy. It really helps and encourages me to think about my God. And don't forget to have a relationship with Him as well as studying Him. ;-)
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~BronzeLion Sep 29, 2012   General Artist
Hmmm... Just a few things bro.

I do believe that GOD did broke mortal (i.e. within the worldly-plane) logic while at the same time, not breaking any logic at all. My statement above may sound oxymoron-ial but here's the deal:

GOD had a Son, right? And we know that His Name is Jesus. If mortal logic would be placed into action, it REALLY is "perfectly illogical" for an omnipotent Being to give up what He values the most for a bunch of ungrateful mortals like us - in the case of YAHWEH, He gave up His beloved only Son. But at the same time, He did not defy any logic at all because (as the Story of the Gospels goes) it caused the Salvation of Man and the enthronement of Christ as the LORD of all creations. With the same mortal logic, no all-powerful God would really say:

"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." (Luke 23:34) after being literally "pig-upon" by sinful mortals.

By the same mortal logic that I have: since GOD created logic, I say that GOD is simply INDEPENDENT OF LOGIC - meaning whatever He pleases to do, He is not subject to mortal logic so his actions doesn't really violate any logic no matter what He does. He IS GOD afterall. Everything ends up GOD'S way no matter what.

Secondly, I do believe that GOD CAN lose His omnipotence while at the same time not lose His omnipotence at all at any given time. Again, He is not subject to mortal logic after all. Reviewing your knowledge Holy Trinity: Jesus DID LET GO of his omnipotence when His became human (Philippians 2:6), therefore GOD DID became non-omnipotent but at the same time never lose his omnipotent nature because 1. Jesus never sinned and remained perfect and 2. GOD the Father and the Holy Spirit never loosed their omnipotent and perfect nature while they remained in heaven, therefore, GOD never did lose His omnipotence at any given time.

In fact, belief in single GOD (Being) being active in three distinct persons isn't really mortally logically at all to begin with (according to Muslims at least). The belief on GOD (the Father) passing on the rule of heaven to GOD (Christ) or GOD sitting at the right hand of GOD aren't really mortally logical either: that's where our Christian Faith comes in and "nothing more". hehe, about that, I prayed to GOD once and I said to Him, "You're literally sitting beside yourself Father." :giggles:.

PS: About that last statement on faith and logic, just want to clear it up. I do believe that Faith and logic is perfectly compatible, but as a Christian, I do believe you understand that THERE ARE some points about GOD that logic no longer becomes sufficient and only Faith can do that.

GOD bless. Happy Birthday bro.
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*Rafael-Domination Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"I say that GOD is simply INDEPENDENT OF LOGIC"
~ Take that, Omnipotence Paradox.
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~BronzeLion Oct 31, 2012   General Artist
Hi there.

So what's your point my good friend, if I may ask?
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*Rafael-Domination Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, some people say that the Omnipotence Paradox is proof that God cannot be omnipotent. As you and I would have plainly stated, the Omnipotence Paradox is a limited concept born out of man's feeble logic, and God is beyond even such a thing.
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~BronzeLion Oct 31, 2012   General Artist
I see. Thank you so much for sharing. :)

Blessings and more blessings to come in all the days of your life.
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*Rafael-Domination Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No worries. :D

Thank you, and bless you too.
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~roxas1296 Sep 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I always define omnipotence as "the ability to do all things that are not intrinsically impossible." It eliminates a great deal of fallacies right off the bat.
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