Seriously? Thee are simply the worst analogies and examples i've ever seen.

The ethnic that everything is permissable as long as no-one's freedom is violated is a terrible misconception, what is actually meant is that everything is permissable as long as there is no HARM done.

Everything you mentioned is harmfull one way or the other mentally or physically. Seriously you shouldn't blame atheists for making stupid arguments and then come up with this load of shit.

I think you pose a good point, but I'm against all of the above.
I was watching this cop show the other day and there was this line that said 'You have the freedom to your opinion and speak your mind, but some things still have consequences.'

So true. People nowadays have turned the definition of tolerance upside down.

True tolerance is "I don't like your view but I respect you." but now its like "YOU MUST APPROVE OF EVERYTHING I DO". That is the most stupidest definition of tolerance ever. Modern liberalism is so contradictory, that all in the name of "liberalism" they just promote evil.

...You compare the stupidest things you know that?

Modern liberalism contradicts itself. Liberalism means progress. Modern liberalism isn't progress, it's regression of society.

dont you think "being liberal" is a lame excuse for doing everything what someone desire of doing. if it is liberalism then animals are the most liberal and highest rank of all the humanity

This is the reason why I no longer believe in tolerance (actually I prefer the more vulgar version 'putting up with it.' Got to pick your battles after all). People say things are not so 'cut and dry,' but I beg to differ. Though actions themselves aren't necessarily good or bad, the context in which you commit these acts (something that most people ignore, especially when reading the Bible) does determine whether they are right or wrong. You could kill to defend yourself, eat out of trash cans if you can't find or afford another source of food, disobey -not dishonor- a parent who's destructive and abusive, live in the wild if its the only way you can preserve your life from people out to kill you or control you, take advantage of natural resources -including rainforests- if it helps you to live (note that I did not say wipe everything out as that would be counterproductive to survival), refuse to do work that involves cheating or taking things that don't belong to you, cutting or chopping off body parts if it can save your life, abort a child if the mother's life is in danger (in this context I don't really call it an abortion anymore), Sex -which is considered very dirty in and of itself in certain circles- is perfectly fine if done at the right time, right place, right person (for conservative Christians that would be marriage). There is a line, but its very jagged. There are very few, if any, grey areas. The only thing that could be considered wrong no matter what is probably suicide. That affects everyone you know. Then again, that would be put under killing and considered wrong. As for masturbation, well, again that could be considered in context (doing it in public would be considered wrong, or at least, a very bad idea). Or put under sex and considered wrong. Necrophilia goes under sex as well.

Just keep in mind, context does count. I guess that's why we're given the ability to discern each particular situation and not given a tiring long list of orders by God (even the hundreds of 'commandments' you find in the Old Testament, given after the original ten and ingrained in Jewish tradition, could not cover every situation). The line between right and wrong is indeed very jagged, but its there. Its why we continue to have these morality discussions and keep searching for the truth. This doesn't mean we shouldn't have principles, of course. We all need some moral base, and I would be very wary of people who change their base quickly and often. People like that only care about being accepted by the crowd and don't bother to think for themselves.

Okay, done rambling. I hope I made some sense.


~NB~

You always come up with good points on things.

i am not liberal because i believe in freedom but what exactly is wrong with running around in the forest/tundra/grasslands/coast eating mushrooms/shellfish? That was me one summer.
Also what was wrong with eating from trashcans? That sums up my school & millions of people still eat from trash cans because it is cheaper than buying food.
What was wrong with self harm as long as you only do it to yourself & not other people or anyone sharing your body at the time? i thought people enjoyed watching that?

Was just wondering how those got on your list.